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the closer you are able to look
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Timothy Sutter
2012-06-06 21:03:38 UTC
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so, when you look for those things
that are true, noble, pure, of good report,
lovely, just and anything of virtue at all,

you know that the first place you will
always find these are in Christ.

and so, keeping one's mind fixed on
Christ accomplishes this noble end.

and so, i can see how the people
with the beads intend that.

of course, one doesn't need the beads
to remain fixed on Christ, but, whatever helps.

just so long as the -beads- don't become
a 'good luck charm' which thing they
can never be.

and that's the same sort of thing
with ritual in general. ritual itself
is not a 'saving grace' and shouldn't
be mistaken for such. ritual is not
actions that earn you points and favors,

but anything that helps to maintain
the fixed presence of Christ is of use.

like any delicate apparatus,
the tendency to 'drift' is
in continuous effect.

technical instrumentation tends to drift
and needs constant and precise tuning
and repositioning and alignement.

in this same sort of aspect,

-you- need this same sort of
continuous tuning, and fixing
the knobs and dials and keeping
yourself set on Christ is a
'hands on' occupation.

so, just as ever,

you don't rely on the ritual to save you,

but to keep your drifting mind

fixed on the Savior.
so, when you look for those things
that are true, noble, pure, of good report,
lovely, just and anything of virtue at all,
you know that the first place you will
always find these are in Christ.
and so, keeping one's mind fixed on
Christ accomplishes this noble end.
but that's part of the point,

before you think to yourself that
it's the drifting that is interesting,

no, when you're drifting away from
the newness of life which is -in- Christ

you are exactly -not- looking -towards-
a creative gesture and are in all likelihood
being tugged into an about face and wandering
away from the newness of life and into various
'do-loops' as you spiral into oblivion.

see, you focus towards the newness of life
and -that- is where the interesting things,
that you have -not- seen, await.

when the various hooks come in
and pull you off course,

...well, we don't even want to consider being
pulled off course, as such is too dreadful,

but, maintaining a clearly focused avenue of approach

should make the ride that much more enjoyable,

and you won't be saying 'i missed something'

because, you may gain a deeper appreciation
for something that is yet ahead after having
fully appreciated that which you are in the
process of passing right now.

even if you see what appears to be
the same things over and over again,

you may find that the closer you are able to look,
the more you are able to see and so, you don't
really pass the exact same thing because -you-
have grown into the greater appreciation
and see much more, and more, and more.

and...
Timothy Sutter
2012-09-25 03:11:00 UTC
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Post by Timothy Sutter
so, when you look for those things
that are true, noble, pure, of good report,
lovely, just and anything of virtue at all,
you know that the first place you will
always find these are in Christ.
and so, keeping one's mind fixed on
Christ accomplishes this noble end.
and so, i can see how the people
with the beads intend that.
of course, one doesn't need the beads
to remain fixed on Christ, but, whatever helps.
just so long as the -beads- don't become
a 'good luck charm' which thing they
can never be.
and that's the same sort of thing
with ritual in general. ritual itself
is not a 'saving grace' and shouldn't
be mistaken for such. ritual is not
actions that earn you points and favors,
but anything that helps to maintain
the fixed presence of Christ is of use.
like any delicate apparatus,
the tendency to 'drift' is
in continuous effect.
technical instrumentation tends to drift
and needs constant and precise tuning
and repositioning and alignement.
in this same sort of aspect,
-you- need this same sort of
continuous tuning, and fixing
the knobs and dials and keeping
yourself set on Christ is a
'hands on' occupation.
so, just as ever,
you don't rely on the ritual to save you,
but to keep your drifting mind
fixed on the Savior.
Post by Timothy Sutter
so, when you look for those things
that are true, noble, pure, of good report,
lovely, just and anything of virtue at all,
you know that the first place you will
always find these are in Christ.
and so, keeping one's mind fixed on
Christ accomplishes this noble end.
but that's part of the point,
before you think to yourself that
it's the drifting that is interesting,
no, when you're drifting away from
the newness of life which is -in- Christ
you are exactly -not- looking -towards-
a creative gesture and are in all likelihood
being tugged into an about face and wandering
away from the newness of life and into various
'do-loops' as you spiral into oblivion.
see, you focus towards the newness of life
and -that- is where the interesting things,
that you have -not- seen, await.
when the various hooks come in
and pull you off course,
...well, we don't even want to consider being
pulled off course, as such is too dreadful,
but, maintaining a clearly focused avenue of approach
should make the ride that much more enjoyable,
and you won't be saying 'i missed something'
because, you may gain a deeper appreciation
for something that is yet ahead after having
fully appreciated that which you are in the
process of passing right now.
even if you see what appears to be
the same things over and over again,
you may find that the closer you are able to look,
the more you are able to see and so, you don't
really pass the exact same thing because -you-
have grown into the greater appreciation
and see much more, and more, and more.
and...
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Timothy Sutter
2012-10-06 02:09:12 UTC
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Post by Timothy Sutter
Post by Timothy Sutter
so, when you look for those things
that are true, noble, pure, of good report,
lovely, just and anything of virtue at all,
you know that the first place you will
always find these are in Christ.
and so, keeping one's mind fixed on
Christ accomplishes this noble end.
and so, i can see how the people
with the beads intend that.
of course, one doesn't need the beads
to remain fixed on Christ, but, whatever helps.
just so long as the -beads- don't become
a 'good luck charm' which thing they
can never be.
and that's the same sort of thing
with ritual in general. ritual itself
is not a 'saving grace' and shouldn't
be mistaken for such. ritual is not
actions that earn you points and favors,
but anything that helps to maintain
the fixed presence of Christ is of use.
like any delicate apparatus,
the tendency to 'drift' is
in continuous effect.
technical instrumentation tends to drift
and needs constant and precise tuning
and repositioning and alignement.
in this same sort of aspect,
-you- need this same sort of
continuous tuning, and fixing
the knobs and dials and keeping
yourself set on Christ is a
'hands on' occupation.
so, just as ever,
you don't rely on the ritual to save you,
but to keep your drifting mind
fixed on the Savior.
Post by Timothy Sutter
so, when you look for those things
that are true, noble, pure, of good report,
lovely, just and anything of virtue at all,
you know that the first place you will
always find these are in Christ.
and so, keeping one's mind fixed on
Christ accomplishes this noble end.
but that's part of the point,
before you think to yourself that
it's the drifting that is interesting,
no, when you're drifting away from
the newness of life which is -in- Christ
you are exactly -not- looking -towards-
a creative gesture and are in all likelihood
being tugged into an about face and wandering
away from the newness of life and into various
'do-loops' as you spiral into oblivion.
see, you focus towards the newness of life
and -that- is where the interesting things,
that you have -not- seen, await.
when the various hooks come in
and pull you off course,
...well, we don't even want to consider being
pulled off course, as such is too dreadful,
but, maintaining a clearly focused avenue of approach
should make the ride that much more enjoyable,
and you won't be saying 'i missed something'
because, you may gain a deeper appreciation
for something that is yet ahead after having
fully appreciated that which you are in the
process of passing right now.
even if you see what appears to be
the same things over and over again,
you may find that the closer you are able to look,
the more you are able to see and so, you don't
really pass the exact same thing because -you-
have grown into the greater appreciation
and see much more, and more, and more.
and...
utykuykgkghg
utykuykgkghg
Timothy Sutter
2012-12-29 13:58:14 UTC
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Post by Timothy Sutter
so, when you look for those things
that are true, noble, pure, of good report,
lovely, just and anything of virtue at all,
you know that the first place you will
always find these are in Christ.
and so, keeping one's mind fixed on
Christ accomplishes this noble end.
and so, i can see how the people
with the beads intend that.
of course, one doesn't need the beads
to remain fixed on Christ, but, whatever helps.
just so long as the -beads- don't become
a 'good luck charm' which thing they
can never be.
and that's the same sort of thing
with ritual in general. ritual itself
is not a 'saving grace' and shouldn't
be mistaken for such. ritual is not
actions that earn you points and favors,
but anything that helps to maintain
the fixed presence of Christ is of use.
like any delicate apparatus,
the tendency to 'drift' is
in continuous effect.
technical instrumentation tends to drift
and needs constant and precise tuning
and repositioning and alignement.
in this same sort of aspect,
-you- need this same sort of
continuous tuning, and fixing
the knobs and dials and keeping
yourself set on Christ is a
'hands on' occupation.
so, just as ever,
you don't rely on the ritual to save you,
but to keep your drifting mind
fixed on the Savior.
Post by Timothy Sutter
so, when you look for those things
that are true, noble, pure, of good report,
lovely, just and anything of virtue at all,
you know that the first place you will
always find these are in Christ.
and so, keeping one's mind fixed on
Christ accomplishes this noble end.
but that's part of the point,
before you think to yourself that
it's the drifting that is interesting,
no, when you're drifting away from
the newness of life which is -in- Christ
you are exactly -not- looking -towards-
a creative gesture and are in all likelihood
being tugged into an about face and wandering
away from the newness of life and into various
'do-loops' as you spiral into oblivion.
see, you focus towards the newness of life
and -that- is where the interesting things,
that you have -not- seen, await.
when the various hooks come in
and pull you off course,
...well, we don't even want to consider being
pulled off course, as such is too dreadful,
but, maintaining a clearly focused avenue of approach
should make the ride that much more enjoyable,
and you won't be saying 'i missed something'
because, you may gain a deeper appreciation
for something that is yet ahead after having
fully appreciated that which you are in the
process of passing right now.
even if you see what appears to be
the same things over and over again,
you may find that the closer you are able to look,
the more you are able to see and so, you don't
really pass the exact same thing because -you-
have grown into the greater appreciation
and see much more, and more, and more.
and...
tykuyykuykkutykuykut
Timothy Sutter
2013-03-21 07:56:04 UTC
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Post by Timothy Sutter
Post by Timothy Sutter
so, when you look for those things
that are true, noble, pure, of good report,
lovely, just and anything of virtue at all,
you know that the first place you will
always find these are in Christ.
and so, keeping one's mind fixed on
Christ accomplishes this noble end.
and so, i can see how the people
with the beads intend that.
of course, one doesn't need the beads
to remain fixed on Christ, but, whatever helps.
just so long as the -beads- don't become
a 'good luck charm' which thing they
can never be.
and that's the same sort of thing
with ritual in general. ritual itself
is not a 'saving grace' and shouldn't
be mistaken for such. ritual is not
actions that earn you points and favors,
but anything that helps to maintain
the fixed presence of Christ is of use.
like any delicate apparatus,
the tendency to 'drift' is
in continuous effect.
technical instrumentation tends to drift
and needs constant and precise tuning
and repositioning and alignement.
in this same sort of aspect,
-you- need this same sort of
continuous tuning, and fixing
the knobs and dials and keeping
yourself set on Christ is a
'hands on' occupation.
so, just as ever,
you don't rely on the ritual to save you,
but to keep your drifting mind
fixed on the Savior.
Post by Timothy Sutter
so, when you look for those things
that are true, noble, pure, of good report,
lovely, just and anything of virtue at all,
you know that the first place you will
always find these are in Christ.
and so, keeping one's mind fixed on
Christ accomplishes this noble end.
but that's part of the point,
before you think to yourself that
it's the drifting that is interesting,
no, when you're drifting away from
the newness of life which is -in- Christ
you are exactly -not- looking -towards-
a creative gesture and are in all likelihood
being tugged into an about face and wandering
away from the newness of life and into various
'do-loops' as you spiral into oblivion.
see, you focus towards the newness of life
and -that- is where the interesting things,
that you have -not- seen, await.
when the various hooks come in
and pull you off course,
...well, we don't even want to consider being
pulled off course, as such is too dreadful,
but, maintaining a clearly focused avenue of approach
should make the ride that much more enjoyable,
and you won't be saying 'i missed something'
because, you may gain a deeper appreciation
for something that is yet ahead after having
fully appreciated that which you are in the
process of passing right now.
even if you see what appears to be
the same things over and over again,
you may find that the closer you are able to look,
the more you are able to see and so, you don't
really pass the exact same thing because -you-
have grown into the greater appreciation
and see much more, and more, and more.
and...
tykuyykuykkutykuykut
hgykuykgktykuyykuykkutykuykutgkghgkuykgkghg
Timothy Sutter
2013-04-28 09:10:31 UTC
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Post by Timothy Sutter
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so, when you look for those things
that are true, noble, pure, of good report,
lovely, just and anything of virtue at all,
you know that the first place you will
always find these are in Christ.
and so, keeping one's mind fixed on
Christ accomplishes this noble end.
and so, i can see how the people
with the beads intend that.
of course, one doesn't need the beads
to remain fixed on Christ, but, whatever helps.
just so long as the -beads- don't become
a 'good luck charm' which thing they
can never be.
and that's the same sort of thing
with ritual in general. ritual itself
is not a 'saving grace' and shouldn't
be mistaken for such. ritual is not
actions that earn you points and favors,
but anything that helps to maintain
the fixed presence of Christ is of use.
like any delicate apparatus,
the tendency to 'drift' is
in continuous effect.
technical instrumentation tends to drift
and needs constant and precise tuning
and repositioning and alignement.
in this same sort of aspect,
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Post by Timothy Sutter
Post by Timothy Sutter
-you- need this same sort of
continuous tuning, and fixing
the knobs and dials and keeping
yourself set on Christ is a
'hands on' occupation.
so, just as ever,
you don't rely on the ritual to save you,
but to keep your drifting mind
fixed on the Savior.
Post by Timothy Sutter
so, when you look for those things
that are true, noble, pure, of good report,
lovely, just and anything of virtue at all,
you know that the first place you will
always find these are in Christ.
and so, keeping one's mind fixed on
Christ accomplishes this noble end.
but that's part of the point,
before you think to yourself that
it's the drifting that is interesting,
no, when you're drifting away from
the newness of life which is -in- Christ
you are exactly -not- looking -towards-
a creative gesture and are in all likelihood
being tugged into an about face and wandering
away from the newness of life and into various
'do-loops' as you spiral into oblivion.
uykgkghtymftnym,ksrsyumrq3534hfgmghkgykuykgkghkuykgkghgkuy
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Post by Timothy Sutter
Post by Timothy Sutter
see, you focus towards the newness of life
and -that- is where the interesting things,
that you have -not- seen, await.
when the various hooks come in
and pull you off course,
uykgkghtymftnym,ksrsyumrq3534hfgmghkgykuykgkghkuykgkghgkuy
Post by Timothy Sutter
Post by Timothy Sutter
Post by Timothy Sutter
...well, we don't even want to consider being
pulled off course, as such is too dreadful,
but, maintaining a clearly focused avenue of approach
should make the ride that much more enjoyable,
and you won't be saying 'i missed something'
because, you may gain a deeper appreciation
for something that is yet ahead after having
fully appreciated that which you are in the
process of passing right now.
even if you see what appears to be
the same things over and over again,
you may find that the closer you are able to look,
the more you are able to see and so, you don't
really pass the exact same thing because -you-
have grown into the greater appreciation
and see much more, and more, and more.
and...
tykuyykuykkutykuykut
hgykuykgktykuyykuykkutykuykutgkghgkuykgkghg
uykgkghtymftnym,ksrsyumrq3534hfgmghkgykuykgkghkuykgkghgkuy
Timothy Sutter
2013-07-07 00:17:38 UTC
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46) Jesus said, "Among those born of women, from Adam until John
the Baptist, there is no one so superior to John the Baptist that
his eyes should not be lowered (before him). Yet I have said
whichever one of you comes to be a child will be acquainted with
the Kingdom and will become superior to John."

47) Jesus said, "It is impossible for a man to mount two horses
or to stretch two bows. And it is impossible for a servant to
serve two masters; otherwise he will honor the one and treat the
other contemptuously. No man drinks old wine and immediately
desires to drink new wine. And new wine is not put into old
wineskins, lest they burst; nor is old wine put into a new
wineskin, lest it spoil it. An old patch is not sewn onto a new
garment, because a tear would result."
°€ª
2013-09-11 08:12:18 UTC
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Post by Timothy Sutter
46) Jesus said, "Among those born of women, from Adam until John
the Baptist, there is no one so superior to John the Baptist that
his eyes should not be lowered (before him). Yet I have said
whichever one of you comes to be a child will be acquainted with
the Kingdom and will become superior to John."
47) Jesus said, "It is impossible for a man to mount two horses
or to stretch two bows. And it is impossible for a servant to
serve two masters; otherwise he will honor the one and treat the
other contemptuously. No man drinks old wine and immediately
desires to drink new wine. And new wine is not put into old
wineskins, lest they burst; nor is old wine put into a new
wineskin, lest it spoil it. An old patch is not sewn onto a new
garment, because a tear would result."
ØØØØØ
°€ª
2013-10-08 03:20:38 UTC
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Post by Timothy Sutter
46) Jesus said, "Among those born of women, from Adam until John
the Baptist, there is no one so superior to John the Baptist that
his eyes should not be lowered (before him). Yet I have said
whichever one of you comes to be a child will be acquainted with
the Kingdom and will become superior to John."
47) Jesus said, "It is impossible for a man to mount two horses
or to stretch two bows. And it is impossible for a servant to
serve two masters; otherwise he will honor the one and treat the
other contemptuously. No man drinks old wine and immediately
desires to drink new wine. And new wine is not put into old
wineskins, lest they burst; nor is old wine put into a new
wineskin, lest it spoil it. An old patch is not sewn onto a new
garment, because a tear would result."
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“Strive to enter through the narrow gate,
for many, I say to you, will seek to enter
and will not be able.

When once the Master of the house has risen up
and shut the door, and you begin to stand outside
and knock at the door, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open for us,’
and He will answer and say to you, ‘I do not know you,
where you are from,’ then you will begin to say,
‘We ate and drank in Your presence,
and You taught in our streets.’

But He will say, ‘I tell you I do not know you,
where you are from. Depart from Me, all you
workers of injustice.’


Luke 13:24-27

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